tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309311177399464085.post4006384714028207478..comments2024-03-09T22:15:08.461-06:00Comments on Lake County Eye: Cadge & Release™ Circle the WagonsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309311177399464085.post-24613704605690038772011-10-23T09:04:59.338-05:002011-10-23T09:04:59.338-05:00Anonymous said "We wonder why it is that you ...Anonymous said "We wonder why it is that you (Jennifer Andrew) felt the need to deceive by omission (of Ms. Andrew's title of Deputy Clerk of V. of Old Mill Creek) when it appears that you've already got Marty Beuhler to do what you wanted."<br /><br />Why. I'll bet $1 the "why" has everything to do with money....for those in power:<br />1. serving the wants of the elite rather than the needs of the constituency and <br />2. trying to protect their phony political reputations so they can stay in power to continue this wasteful, self serving nonsense.<br /><br />As always, follow the $ and take a look at the recent "campaign contributions" including $2,000 from Tim Smith to the Bonnie Thomson Carter Committee on 7/1/ 2011 and $1,000 from Tempel Smith, Jr. Trust to the Suzi Schmidt Campaign on 9/20/2011. Both "campaign contributions" can be confirmed on the IL Board of Elections site.<br /><br />What is killing Lake County is the Daily Herald keeps endorsing these multiterm sellouts back into public office, year after year after year after year.<br /><br />It certainly pays to have "connections" in Lake County.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309311177399464085.post-29091208687469598592011-10-22T19:10:23.394-05:002011-10-22T19:10:23.394-05:00Actually, anon 10:35, that's not the point. Fe...Actually, anon 10:35, that's not the point. Feeling strongly is one thing, having a vested interest in the outcome is quite another. Jennifer has a vested interest in the outcome of this decision in a couple of ways, and she deceived the readers by not disclosing this. Read her letters. Jennifer carefully crafted her letters to a manner that sees just a little beyond the school teacher from Libertyville. I'd bet a dollar that the lawyer from Temple Farms who testified at the transportation committee hearing helped her with these. They're subtle; far more subtle than her bleating replies in the comment section. She impeached herself in the comments, something the blow-hard lawyer Louis totally missed. But he's an inconsequential lightweight; a purveyor of blibberblabber. Watch out for Jennifer, however. She's the one connected with the big GOP bucks driving this western bypass nightmare down our throats. It's noteworthy that our Tax-and-spend Republicans are foisting a plan upon us that is 1.4 million dollars more expensive, so thing, in real terms, 3.3 million more expensive. But hey, it's property tax money, and Tim Smith pays a dime where we pay a dollar, so what do they care?!?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309311177399464085.post-82855332860460623282011-10-22T12:46:57.082-05:002011-10-22T12:46:57.082-05:00@Anon 10:45pm
Of course you do Jennifer@Anon 10:45pm<br />Of course you do JenniferAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309311177399464085.post-21731403319051423532011-10-21T22:35:19.111-05:002011-10-21T22:35:19.111-05:00I believe that all people who feel strongly one wa...I believe that all people who feel strongly one way or another about an issue are biased... Isn't that the point? The people who have chosen to criticize the person for writing letters to the editor are deceiving themselves and the readers here. They are in fact lobbying anyone who will listen to them on the County Board to vote against funding the bypass. The board will vote on whether or not to fund the bypass. The board is not voting on east or west. So yes, it is west or not at all. I urge the county board to vote yes!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309311177399464085.post-68221729372729223682011-10-20T10:29:12.941-05:002011-10-20T10:29:12.941-05:00Mr. Atsaves, my name is Ed Erwin, and I challenge ...Mr. Atsaves, my name is Ed Erwin, and I challenge you to to show me where in the above commentary, Ms. Andrew was the victim of a personal attack and "silly insinuations".<br /><br />Ms. Andrew clearly failed to disclose in her letters to the editor in the News Sun and The Daily Herald, that she was employed by the village that stands to benefit from the LCDOT's choice of the western bypass of Rt. 45, nor that she was the Chairperson of the Historic Millburn Community Association, Inc. I have enjoyed the exchanges you have had with commenters on this blog, and understand from those that you are a lawyer. Are you really saying that Ms. Andrew's credibility cannot be judged, in part, by what she fails to disclose to the public at large? Are you really saying that deception cannot occur through a failure to disclose? I hope not. <br /><br />Ms. Andrew's letters were, in fact, carefully crafted. She notes in one letter that she appreciates that the County is stepping up to build the bypass even though it was not a county road. And yet, in her comments here, she discloses that she was a member of the CAG. As a member of the CAG, she had to know that the basis for the need for the bypass has nothing to do with the nature of Rt. 45 itself, but in fact the combination of the misalignment of Millburn and Grass Lake Roads, both of which are in fact Lake County roads, and the presence of the protected historical district at their intersection with Rt. 45, an historic district which she herself chairs. These are significant omissions that speak to a bias and interest that this blog and its commenters have noted.<br /><br />I grow weary of these claims of cowardice because someone doesn't include their name. I have posted under my name in the past and two hours later received a call from Ed Sullivan, Jr. regarding my comment. I found that disturbingly invasive. Moreover, I note that in both Ms. Andrew's and your own cases, the cry of the unfairness of anonymity usually comes after the commenter has made a cogent point, for which she, and you, fail to have an adequate response.<br /><br />In Ms. Andrew's case, she clearly framed her letters to 'cast dispersion' upon the people who do not want the western bypass by merely stating that they do not want a bypass at all. In fact, the only people saying that are Senator Schmidt and Representative Osmond. The proponents of the eastern bypass are advocating a better plan, a less expensive plan, and a safer plan, not "no plan".<br /><br />I have lived in Lindenhurst for over 20 years. I know this intersection intimately. I have personally witnessed a number of accidents occur there and have driven through the debris of scores more. I do question LCDOT's choice of the western bypass because I have never been a proponent of roadway designs that are backfilled with after-thought and aftermarket berms and barriers to make an otherwise unsafe design marginally less disastrous, and yet significantly more expensive. <br /><br />Ms. Andrew has a right to her opinion. And I have a right to note that she did not fully disclose her interest in her letters. My name is Ed Erwin, Mr. Atsaves, and I think you are wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309311177399464085.post-66754633254050701722011-10-20T09:41:23.801-05:002011-10-20T09:41:23.801-05:00Hang in there Jennifer. I know what it is like to...Hang in there Jennifer. I know what it is like to be personally attacked by those who "bravely" hide behind anonymous postings with their silly insinuations.<br /><br />You had the guts to put your good name out there with your opinion. They don't.<br /><br />They can intelligently debate your positions if they wanted to but they prefer personal attacks and insinuations. That's why they don't sign their names.<br /><br />Louis G. AtsavesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309311177399464085.post-83277577714599717232011-10-19T18:00:49.713-05:002011-10-19T18:00:49.713-05:00Failure to disclose an interest, Jennifer, is dece...Failure to disclose an interest, Jennifer, is deceptive. Your letters give the impression that you are MERELY a concerned citizen, as opposed to an employee of the direct beneficiary of the western bypass AND a concerned citizen, and in that, you were deceptive. Moreover, the Illinois Department of Transportation has been advised of your letters and their lack of candor. We wonder why it is that you felt the need to deceive by omission when it appears that you've already got Marty Beuhler to do what you wanted. Your statement that you "trusted" Marty's judgement, in light of the omitted information regarding your bias and interest speaks volumes. Lawyers must "Avoid even the appearance of impropriety" and you would do well to follow the same tenant. I note that you have also failed to note the inaccuracies you claim, even when invited to do so. At some point, Jennifer, silence is seen as an admission. You were deceptive in your failure to disclose, deceptive in the suggestion that the eastern bypass group wants no bypass at all, and deceptive in your cry of unfairness here. Look in the dictionary, Jennifer. Those that engage in deceptive practices are deceitful. Are you deceitful, Jennifer?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309311177399464085.post-43285530648469520302011-10-18T18:49:38.132-05:002011-10-18T18:49:38.132-05:00hi Jennifer,
I too am a strong believer in our Fi...hi Jennifer,<br /><br />I too am a strong believer in our First Amendment privileges. But I'm sorry if something in this post offended you. Please feel free to reproduce, here, the factual inaccuracy or personal attack from that post. I will be happy to issue a retraction.<br /><br />-BB-Barney Baxterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07994042251401940234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309311177399464085.post-57864516545353972002011-10-18T12:20:18.003-05:002011-10-18T12:20:18.003-05:00You chose to have your opinions made public, yet n...You chose to have your opinions made public, yet not disclose your ties to Old Mill Creek. Rereading your letters I do see that you only indicate a bypass is better than no bypass, but your letters seem to be trying to reframe the issue from East vs. West to West or nothing. So to give you the opportunity to set the record straight, <br />Would you be in favor of funding for an Eastern bypass?<br />Are you only in favor of the bypass if it is the Western bypass?<br />?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309311177399464085.post-74007110416112297752011-10-17T22:03:08.262-05:002011-10-17T22:03:08.262-05:00Excuse me... Hand in the cookie jar... Come clean....Excuse me... Hand in the cookie jar... Come clean... Deceive the readers... Nothing at stake... Different versions of one's name? Dishonest? Holding public office? Nice try. I have nothing at stake other than traffic congestion or no traffic congestion. Try as you might to sensationalize a rather boring and straightforward situation, reread my letters to the editor and tell me where you find the word "west." I said that a bypass was better than no bypass at all... A bypass... NOT east or west.Serenity Seekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16318369848105103450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309311177399464085.post-75457363947298591722011-10-17T21:21:17.472-05:002011-10-17T21:21:17.472-05:00Funny response when someone gets caught with '...Funny response when someone gets caught with 'their hand in the cookie jar' and suddenly they take the high road as they come clean. Not sure if I'd classify the other comments on her as bullying. The fact remains that her letters would likely never have made it here had Ms. Andrew not omitted the important fact that she works for OMC in her letters instead of trying to deceive the readers into believing that she had nothing at stake for supporting a western option. Choosing to leave that little detail out and using different versions of one's name can easily be seen as dishonest and is certainly not befitting someone holding a public office.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309311177399464085.post-49835877123326570912011-10-17T19:52:57.296-05:002011-10-17T19:52:57.296-05:00As a Lindenhurst and Lake County resident, I am en...As a Lindenhurst and Lake County resident, I am entitled to my opinions and I am entitled to share my views freely. I, too, pay taxes and am a registered voter. I am a resident of Heritage Trails and a Libertyville teacher of 34 years. I also happen to be the chairperson of the Historic Millburn Community Association, Inc. and am the Deputy Clerk for the Village of Old Mill Creek. I serve on the Citizens Advisory Committee and am also a parishioner at St. Raphael the Archangel Catholic Church. I am very active in the community. My community involvement does not negate the freedom of speech afforded to me and to all citizens of our country. <br /><br />You can weave your own fantasies, but if you are going to go after people personally and slam them, have the courage of your convictions and identify yourself. Cowards take pot shots and then hide under the cover of anonymity... Furthermore, it is apparent that your views lack merit or you would be better able to support your position based on facts rather than resorting to slander and personal attacks. <br /><br />What we don't need are nameless bullies with far too much time on their hands. I think you would be better served and more credible if you stuck to the facts and left personal attacks out of it. I have no hidden agenda. I expressed my views in the Letters to the Editors that you so kindly republished here. They express my feelings on the issue. Please note that they do not contain any personal attacks.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br /><br />Jennifer AndrewSerenity Seekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16318369848105103450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309311177399464085.post-39546256413569320472011-10-16T21:52:34.182-05:002011-10-16T21:52:34.182-05:00Isn't this typical Old Mill Creek...have your ...Isn't this typical Old Mill Creek...have your village staff write in letters using the various forms of their names and not making any mention of the fact that they work directly for Old Mill Creek as they pretend to be just another 'regular concerned citizen'-what she's really concerned about is his money and his favors!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309311177399464085.post-23616857953098575472011-10-16T21:50:21.925-05:002011-10-16T21:50:21.925-05:00Great catch eye! Looks like Tim's mouthpiece ...Great catch eye! Looks like Tim's mouthpiece is at it again...what she fails to mention is that the vast majority of the public want the land to go through her friend and bosses land over in the east! If all the final options were viable then why wouldn't the county want to run the highway in the east, where development could take place around it, instead of shoehorning it into the west side which now has been fully developed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309311177399464085.post-53719426489808497322011-10-16T16:47:36.925-05:002011-10-16T16:47:36.925-05:00Tim Smith, wielding that golden, diamond encrusted...Tim Smith, wielding that golden, diamond encrusted bludgeon, comes off like the wealthy, insulated numb-skull that he really is!<br /><br />Here's a news flash, Tim: IDOT is starting to believe that you've been less than honest with them. That also includes some of the communications they've received from Marty Beuhler from the Lake County Department of Transportation that bare a striking similarity in wording to your own. But hey, what do you care, Tim! The Village of Old Mill Creek will probably pay your legal fees if the doo-doo hits the oscillating device. If not, I'm sure the Lake County Forest Preserve will buy some more of your land to cover those legal bills. Hope there's enough in your Village coffers to hire poor Marty after the Board members decide he's the best fall guy.<br /><br />Lake County politics, even the gilded edged kind, still make me feel the need to shower!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309311177399464085.post-11566190886077359512011-10-15T05:38:17.790-05:002011-10-15T05:38:17.790-05:00Great catch Eye. The public has got to get up to ...Great catch Eye. The public has got to get up to speed real fast. This is nothing more than big Lake County money buying votes of the County Commissioners. The PAC trail is all telling.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com